Comments on: Why I Am a Southern Baptist http://alvinreid.com/archives/386 equipping leaders in the coming generation to change the world Thu, 26 Apr 2012 14:56:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Kermit Lavala http://alvinreid.com/archives/386/comment-page-1#comment-31886 Kermit Lavala Tue, 15 Feb 2011 11:21:46 +0000 http://alvinreid.com/archives/386#comment-31886 Howdy! Would you mind if I share your blog with my zynga group? There's a lot of people that I think would really enjoy your content. Please let me know. Many thanks Howdy! Would you mind if I share your blog with my zynga group? There’s a lot of people that I think would really enjoy your content. Please let me know. Many thanks

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]]> By: Alvin Reid http://alvinreid.com/archives/386/comment-page-1#comment-8879 Alvin Reid Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:35:52 +0000 http://alvinreid.com/archives/386#comment-8879 Hey Mark, Thanks for the comment. Of course we should not give up on a generation. I would argue that Southern Baptists did not actually go after the GenXers who need Christ, however. I have taught many, many GenXers who passionately follow Jesus. It just seems from where I sit (not an empirical study) that the people who complain the loudest without offering solutions come from that demographic. I would also add that the numbers who truly will leave, again in my own opinion, are much smaller than the rhetoric. I am grateful that the conversation is ongoing about this. We who are lifers in the SBC and older should never sit on our laurels. I read something Johnny Hunt said about that in a press release the other day, noting we are being described more and more along the lines of the mainline denominations. Not a good thing. My point about those under 25 is this: All of us must make decisions about ministry focus. Some passionately love senior adults. Some adore childrens ministry. God has given me much favor with those under 25. I am not ignoring the rest, but that will be my own focus. Hope that helps a bit. Hey Mark,
Thanks for the comment. Of course we should not give up on a generation. I would argue that Southern Baptists did not actually go after the GenXers who need Christ, however. I have taught many, many GenXers who passionately follow Jesus. It just seems from where I sit (not an empirical study) that the people who complain the loudest without offering solutions come from that demographic. I would also add that the numbers who truly will leave, again in my own opinion, are much smaller than the rhetoric.
I am grateful that the conversation is ongoing about this. We who are lifers in the SBC and older should never sit on our laurels. I read something Johnny Hunt said about that in a press release the other day, noting we are being described more and more along the lines of the mainline denominations. Not a good thing.
My point about those under 25 is this: All of us must make decisions about ministry focus. Some passionately love senior adults. Some adore childrens ministry. God has given me much favor with those under 25. I am not ignoring the rest, but that will be my own focus. Hope that helps a bit.

]]> By: Mark Lindsey http://alvinreid.com/archives/386/comment-page-1#comment-8870 Mark Lindsey Fri, 29 Aug 2008 06:09:49 +0000 http://alvinreid.com/archives/386#comment-8870 "Some younger ministers who want to or are leaving are GenXers. Not to be a big proponent of generational studies, but if you are not careful you will prove the pundits right. After all they call those in your generation slackers, complainers, uncooperative, cynical, relativistic, things like that." "I am giving my life to the next generation, in particular those under 25." "Julie is a Millennial, and I have great hope in her generation!" -Just wondering which is worse; quiting a convention, or an entire generation? And, no - I didn't miss your point. Hopefuly, I haven't made your point either. Mark (Southern Baptist, GenXer) “Some younger ministers who want to or are leaving are GenXers. Not to be a big proponent of generational studies, but if you are not careful you will prove the pundits right. After all they call those in your generation slackers, complainers, uncooperative, cynical, relativistic, things like that.”

“I am giving my life to the next generation, in particular those under 25.”

“Julie is a Millennial, and I have great hope in her generation!”

-Just wondering which is worse; quiting a convention, or an entire generation? And, no – I didn’t miss your point. Hopefuly, I haven’t made your point either.

Mark (Southern Baptist, GenXer)

]]> By: Being a Southern Baptist « http://donaldkim.wordpress.com http://alvinreid.com/archives/386/comment-page-1#comment-8809 Being a Southern Baptist « http://donaldkim.wordpress.com Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:58:21 +0000 http://alvinreid.com/archives/386#comment-8809 [...] Posted by donaldkim under Church   I really appreciate Alvin Reid’s post on why he is a Southern Baptist, and Nathan Finn has this introduction for those not familiar with him: Alvin occupies the Bailey [...] [...] Posted by donaldkim under Church   I really appreciate Alvin Reid’s post on why he is a Southern Baptist, and Nathan Finn has this introduction for those not familiar with him: Alvin occupies the Bailey [...]

]]> By: Alvin Reid http://alvinreid.com/archives/386/comment-page-1#comment-8790 Alvin Reid Tue, 26 Aug 2008 05:59:05 +0000 http://alvinreid.com/archives/386#comment-8790 I get far more responses to my posts on my facebook than my website because I am far more interactive there. But I wanted to share with my non-facebook friends an encouraging post from Julie, a recent UNC grad whom I have watched spread her wings and soar for the glory of God. She is preparing to head to Asia in the IMB's journeyman program. Here is what she said: agree with all that you said, but I also wanted to point out the incredible missions organization called the International Mission Board, something that most take for granted, but that is only made possible by the cooperative program of the SBC. It is the largest and I'd say, most sound and supportive Christian missions sending agency in the world, and is in a position to enable Christians to go to places and do things that they'd NEVER be able to do if they had to keep coming home and raising support every couple years. The SBC is also heading up relief efforts that are blessing the world in ways no other organization can do - of course, these aren't the things the "social justice" gen-xers talk about when they complain about the convention and would prefer to buy a homeless man lunch than to contribute to a giant movement of God that is happening to bless the world. It is time that the younger generation analyze what is truly causing them to turn away. True, some of the older generation do not think like them and dress like them and listen to the same music as them, but since when was the church meant to be homogeneous? In myself, I see pride as the culprit that keeps us from learning from our elders and humbly being raised up to contribute our new ideas in a way that would profit the body as a whole. When I think about "social justice" I think of how the Southern Baptists were the first people to get relief to the people of Banda-Aceh Indonesia. Or the ones who brought the hope of the gospel to the Earthquake victims. How could they do that? Because they were already there, due to the support of Southern Baptists and their contributions to the cooperative program and Lottie Moon. Thanks for this post, Dr. Reid! Julie is a Millennial, and I have great hope in her generation! I get far more responses to my posts on my facebook than my website because I am far more interactive there. But I wanted to share with my non-facebook friends an encouraging post from Julie, a recent UNC grad whom I have watched spread her wings and soar for the glory of God. She is preparing to head to Asia in the IMB’s journeyman program. Here is what she said:
agree with all that you said, but I also wanted to point out the incredible missions organization called the International Mission Board, something that most take for granted, but that is only made possible by the cooperative program of the SBC. It is the largest and I’d say, most sound and supportive Christian missions sending agency in the world, and is in a position to enable Christians to go to places and do things that they’d NEVER be able to do if they had to keep coming home and raising support every couple years. The
SBC is also heading up relief efforts that are blessing the world in ways no other organization can do – of course, these aren’t the things the “social justice” gen-xers talk about when they complain about the convention and would prefer to buy a homeless man lunch than to contribute to a giant movement of God that is happening to bless the world. It is time that the younger generation analyze what is truly causing them to turn away. True, some of the older generation do not think like them and dress like them and listen to the same music as them, but since when was the church meant to be homogeneous? In myself, I see pride as the culprit that keeps us from learning from our elders and humbly being raised up to contribute our new ideas in a way that would profit the body as a whole.

When I think about “social justice” I think of how the Southern Baptists were the first people to get relief to the people of Banda-Aceh Indonesia. Or the ones who brought the hope of the gospel to the Earthquake victims. How could they do that? Because they were already there, due to the support of Southern Baptists and their contributions to the cooperative program and Lottie Moon.
Thanks for this post, Dr. Reid!
Julie is a Millennial, and I have great hope in her generation!

]]> By: Donald Kim http://alvinreid.com/archives/386/comment-page-1#comment-8774 Donald Kim Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:14:22 +0000 http://alvinreid.com/archives/386#comment-8774 Thank you for your post. I particularly appreciated your last point about loving a little challenge. There has definitely been a lot of media buzz about leaving the SBC. And this probably has to top them all: http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080825/NEWS01/808250394/1008 Donald Thank you for your post.

I particularly appreciated your last point about loving a little challenge.

There has definitely been a lot of media buzz about leaving the SBC. And this probably has to top them all:
http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080825/NEWS01/808250394/1008

Donald

]]> By: Alvin Reid http://alvinreid.com/archives/386/comment-page-1#comment-8773 Alvin Reid Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:54:19 +0000 http://alvinreid.com/archives/386#comment-8773 Thanks. I normally do not write posts this long but I figured it was needed. Blessings. Thanks. I normally do not write posts this long but I figured it was needed. Blessings.

]]> By: cmcgill http://alvinreid.com/archives/386/comment-page-1#comment-8770 cmcgill Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:40:34 +0000 http://alvinreid.com/archives/386#comment-8770 Long, but well worth the time to read. Thank you! I am not a Southern Baptist but I can identify with many of your thoughts. These same kinds of things can apply to the quick exodus so many churches see as well. Thank you for your commitment and ministry. Long, but well worth the time to read. Thank you! I am not a Southern Baptist but I can identify with many of your thoughts. These same kinds of things can apply to the quick exodus so many churches see as well.

Thank you for your commitment and ministry.

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